Posts by Mr P Hucker

21) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 63) Posted 18 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Leomoon says my AMD CPU Laptop that VT is Supported & Enabled but it has never got a Wu from here. Uspex thinks that laptop doesn't support VT - "CPU does not have hardware virtualization support". Mine say "CPU has hardware virtualization support and it is enabled", suggesting if you had it but hadn't turned it on, it would say "CPU has hardware virtualization support but it is not enabled". But it's wrong, that CPU does have it, although AMD call it "AMD-V". Does Leomoon understand AMD chips? Have you found and enabled AMD-V in the BIOS? If you can connect it to LHC, what's it's opinion? The 2 Sager Laptops show that VT is supported but not enabled. I e-mailed Sager to ask them about it. The only thing in the BIOS I can find is a reference to VT-d & it is enabled. Not sure if that even has anything to do with Virtual Machine. Yes, VT-d is what I turned on in all my Intel machines.
22) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 61) Posted 18 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Yes, I was referring to Leomoon. I am not saying it is wrong. I am just saying it disagrees with what windows is telling me. And since windows already thinks it is turned on and working, I am not sure if there is anything left to do. But it agrees with LHC and Uspex. Majority rule. And Windows is not the most reliable source of information. Perhaps you should try some of the solutions in this post? https://superuser.com/questions/1153470/vt-x-is-not-available-but-is-enabled-in-bios
23) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 59) Posted 18 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: I am just an individual cruncher. I joined LHC way back in 2006, and have had many machines sine then. But 258? That's a large number in total even if they've expired. Or have you reinstalled and reconnected a lot? WRT home vs pro: https://www.tomsguide.com/face-off/windows-11-home-vs-windows-11-pro#section-windows-11-home-vs-pro-virtualization Sounds like whether they include HyperV. I assume VB falls under third party and would work on both. My Windows 10 Home machine does VB ok. That app shows that VT-x is not enabled, which disagrees with what task manager says. I assume you mean the app I linked to, Leomoon. Does it correctly detect your other machines running virtualisation? If the app is working correctly, it looks like there's something up with your machine.
24) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 57) Posted 18 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Yes, that is the same host at LHC. Same message under host details. Perhaps whatever the problem is, is common in the BOINC server code. So the same problem exists there too? Wow, I managed to misread your host at LHC, I thought it said you DID have virtualisation! That CPU supports it. You could try running this test program: https://leomoon.com/downloads/desktop-apps/leomoon-cpu-v/ One other note: This is win11 pro. So that rules out the issue of win11 home not supporting virtualization. I wasn't aware of, and can't find anything on the web about, Home not supporting it. Why do you have so many computers over there? Are you an enormous company or institution?
25) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 55) Posted 18 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: I have come to the conclusion that the problem is on the server side, not the client side. This is something the project admin is going to have to address, and nothing more to be done on the client side. All 8 of mine are ok now I've put VB 7 on. Is this host on LHC? I checked but you have 258 hosts over there!! Does LHC report you have it enabled? If it's this one, they say you do, or did last time you connected there: https://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/show_host_detail.php?hostid=10830744
26) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 53) Posted 18 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: I joined the lhc-dev project years ago, probably before some of you even started to run BOINC ... should be able to join here ... https://lhcathomedev.cern.ch/lhcathome-dev/ I tried following the instructions and signing up through Boinc, but was told to visit the website to create an account. Doing that, it needs an invitation code. I'm guessing you can't remember yours.... There's Xtrack (for the future circular collider) coming soon on there, non-VB, and possibly GPU!
27) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 50) Posted 18 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Please drop the term being bounced around "Banned" The fact that you can Post messages and communicate your frustrations means you are not Banned. People who are excessively disruptive can be Banned... and then they are "gone" Hosts being banned is not the same as users being banned. Rosetta would ban hosts from their VB tasks if they failed a certain number. You could manually reset the ban in the computer's details screen on the website once you think you've fixed the problem of VB not working. Some projects will limit your host to one task at a time if they've been failing a lot, until such time as they successfully complete one. On this project hosts do not get banned. Well mine haven't, even when they kept asking for work and didn't have VB version 7. Users being banned, that never happens, they only get banned from the forum. No project has ever banned even me from running tasks. They don't want to lose computing power, and the Boinc server probably doesn't even have that function. And anyway there's nothing to stop you just calling yourself by another name! They even suggest it in the last rule: "If your account is banned don't create a new one" - pretty much inviting you to do it.
28) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 49) Posted 18 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Forgive me all to hell for not asking your permission if I could join the LHC Dev BOINC Project ... You said "I don't worry about getting work from either of those projects", yet you managed to get a dev account. I run LHC regulary on 12 machines, yet I don't get dev. No idea where to even ask.
29) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 43) Posted 17 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: I was not told I was banned, just no tasks available. The top contributor Mikey has more than one host running a task at once. So it must be possible. Looks like some stupid Boinc bug, I get "Scheduler request to url failed: Couldn't resolve host name", which is absolute garbage. If the host name couldn't be resolved, how am I posting in here from the same computer? And how does Boinc immediately talk to the server it can't resolve? Looks like all unique PCs to me https://uspex-at-home.ru/prediction/hosts_user.php?userid=84 Yes, he has many computers, so do I. What's your point? "Not accepting requests from this host" = ban I've never seen that text anywhere. Anyway I found the problem, you need VB 7, not 5. None of them are the same. So none of them are 2 clients on the same PC. Exactly, you don't know wtf you're talking about. You can't understand simple English. I said "Mikey has more than one host running a task at once". I never suggested he ran two clients on one computer. I was discussing why one of my computers got tasks, but all of his did. Oh, you're American. Yawl kaynt understaynd simple English. Ah sayud "Mikey has more than wun host runnin' uh task at once". Ah nevur suggested hay ran two clients on wun computer. Ah wuz discussin' wha wunna mah computers got tasks, but all uh his did.
30) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 42) Posted 17 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Check yourself before you wreck yourself. Sorry I only speak English. You won't run a few commands given to you to run LHC native apps. A few? Pages of them, all referring to other pages, and needing me to look up all sorts of Linux commands. No thanks, I use a proper OS. As for my comment to Steve, LHC is not difficult to run in Windows. Like here, install VB, install Boinc, attach to project. Where install means double click a file, not type in commands like it was 1990 and I'm back to using DOS. And why did you deliberately hide your computers?
31) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 39) Posted 17 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: I was not told I was banned, just no tasks available. The top contributor Mikey has more than one host running a task at once. So it must be possible. Looks like some stupid Boinc bug, I get "Scheduler request to url failed: Couldn't resolve host name", which is absolute garbage. If the host name couldn't be resolved, how am I posting in here from the same computer? And how does Boinc immediately talk to the server it can't resolve? Looks like all unique PCs to me https://uspex-at-home.ru/prediction/hosts_user.php?userid=84 Yes, he has many computers, so do I. What's your point? "Not accepting requests from this host" = ban I've never seen that text anywhere. Anyway I found the problem, you need VB 7, not 5.
32) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 38) Posted 17 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: So what do your computers come up with when you look at their details on the website of another VB project, say LHC? Not much, they just don't give me any work. No, on the host page, like this: https://uspex-at-home.ru/prediction/show_host_detail.php?hostid=34 That's one of your machines here, it's saying you didn't turn virtualisation on in the BIOS. Or you're using a Hyper-V thing in Windows which interferes with it. I can't find you on LHC to check. I don't worry about getting work from either of those projects since it seems you have to hump thru 20 different hoops to get your box's to run their Wu's. They're no more difficult than any other VB project. And what are you doing on LHC dev if you're not interested?
33) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 35) Posted 17 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: They seemed rather unsure. I thought he didn't have virtualisation enabled. An error message saying "wrong VB version" would have been nice. What a waste of an afternoon.
34) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems connecting (Message 33) Posted 17 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Fixed my can't get tasks problem. This project does not like Virtualbox version 5. I upgraded to 7 and it's ok. Cosmology only likes 5, it can get lost. Of course a message telling me I needed version 7 would have been nice. I only found out by chance because I had one machine on version 7.
35) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 32) Posted 17 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Fixed my can't get tasks problem. This project does not like Virtualbox version 5. I upgraded to 7 and it's ok. Cosmology only likes 5, it can get lost. Of course a message telling me I needed version 7 would have been nice. I only found out by chance because I had one machine on version 7.
36) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 31) Posted 17 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: You have to switch it on in the BIOS, have you done so? Do other projects say you don't have it on? It's turned on, says VT Enabled, nothing more I can do. Config file is set to 0 for V_Box also ... Odd, all I've ever done is turn it on in the BIOS, then install Virtualbox. I've heard people saying the windows Hyper-X (?), whatever the MS rival is called gets in the way. A software controlled alternative that can't run at the same time. So what do your computers come up with when you look at their details on the website of another VB project, say LHC?
37) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 28) Posted 17 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: I seem to be stuck on one task per account, not client. I attached 8 machines at once. All but one did something weird and claimed it couldn't contact the server, but continued to talk to it, asked twice, then got told off for last request too recent. One got a task, then since then the other hosts have just been told "got 0 new tasks" as though there's none available. Yes I already mentioned that above. They are banning hosts/clients. I also tried a 2nd client and it was banned. I was not told I was banned, just no tasks available. The top contributor Mikey has more than one host running a task at once. So it must be possible. Looks like some stupid Boinc bug, I get "Scheduler request to url failed: Couldn't resolve host name", which is absolute garbage. If the host name couldn't be resolved, how am I posting in here from the same computer? And how does Boinc immediately talk to the server it can't resolve?
38) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 27) Posted 17 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: It makes me wonder what is going on in vbox that they are hiding and don't want more than 1 task running per PC. We all know Virtualbox is badly coded. They probably interfere with each other.
39) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 24) Posted 17 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: I see this on 3 of my Box's that I think should be getting work from the project but they don't "Virtualization Virtualbox (7.0.6) installed, CPU does not have hardware virtualization support" I'm not sure if thatis telling me I don't have VT Enabled which I do because I've checked several times on those Box's or that the CPU actually don't support VT ... I've checked online & those CPU are supposed to support it so not really sure why they get that line for VT ... Could be because they are Laptops, but the lone Box I do get work on is a laptop too ... You have to switch it on in the BIOS, have you done so? Do other projects say you don't have it on?
40) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 22) Posted 17 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Due to the peculiarities of using virtualization technology, the following approach is used: one task per computer at a fixed point in time. In the future, we plan to try an approach with two or more tasks per computer at a fixed point in time. I seem to be stuck on one task per account, not client. I attached 8 machines at once. All but one did something weird and claimed it couldn't contact the server, but continued to talk to it, asked twice, then got told off for last request too recent. One got a task, then since then the other hosts have just been told "got 0 new tasks" as though there's none available.

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