Posts by Coleslaw

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 100)
Posted 22 Sep 2023 by Coleslaw
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Despite your (MrPhucker's) personal opinion, the point was to explain why they have a warning in the first place. Now you know. Enough said. Anyways, this is off topic at this point. Lets bring it back to the original subject on why some people have issues getting work from the project and how to help them do better.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 96)
Posted 20 Sep 2023 by Coleslaw
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A bunch of small or tiny requests can overwhelm a modem just as much or more as one data heavy connection. So, you don't have to use all of your bandwidth to bring your modem down. It is managing all of those connections bombarding it at once like a DDoS or sorts.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 87)
Posted 19 Sep 2023 by Coleslaw
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Well....when you could run up to 1,000 instances on a single host, it adds up quick... Plus it is a lot of small data and put stress on routers/modems. And with a 1,000/PC you can get an awful lot of traffic going that adds up.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 83)
Posted 19 Sep 2023 by Coleslaw
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I haven't kept up with LHC after they merged all 4 of their projects into one and then converting the CMS dev project into the lhc-dev project. However, back in 2015 the process was to "send an e-mail to Ivan.Reid@CERN.ch with the Subject: "CMS@Home Request. This in turn will be used to provide you with an invitation code that is used during account creation." I didn't have to do this as my account was created before the invite codes were needed. I hope that helps you out a bit.
Ivan is currently in hospital with bleeding on the brain after he slipped in his kitchen, hit his head on the worktop, and fell unconscious for a few days. Luckily a neighbour found him. I won't bother him with such a request at the moment.


I don't blame you. I wouldn't bother him either. However, they may be another admin that could do the same if you asked in LHC forums. I honestly don't even know if that was still the preferred method for getting the code.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 82)
Posted 19 Sep 2023 by Coleslaw
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It's a brand new, to the public, Project and it makes sense to limit the number of tasks per user so everyone gets some and not one person gets all of them and the rest of us get none. As the Admin said overtime they expect to up that to more tasks per pc. Look at the Project Ithena and how they are always having 'database full' messages because too many users are overwhelming the amount of space they have. They are working on it by increasing some of the task sizes but it will take time and probably money to fix the problem. MilkyWay limits the number of tasks a single user can get as well, it's not an uncommon thing, remember this is about the Science and one user crunching all the data can cause HUGE problems if their pc is not working correctly.
I've just joined Ithena, looks like the measurements project runs all the time, but there's no point in running it on more than one computer since it's checking your internet connection and they'd all get the same answer. The computation one I put on all of them, but that only has work every few weeks for 12 hours. The measurements one only has Linux tasks available just now, so I added it with a Virtualbox Linux. ROFL it warns you will be connecting to porn sites. Waits for police at door....


Its not really "checking" your internet connection. It is more "mapping" the route data is traveling between locations. And that route can actually change between cycles. There was another project called Dimes (non-BOINC) years ago that did essentially the same "science" but it was discontinued. Basically the same piece of data could travel infinite different paths to get to the same location. In theory they are supposed to take the shortest path but lines get congested, hardware over tasked or down, some re-routed intentionally for various reasons (including tracking), etc.. In theory they could take this data and make smarter devices/networks to make things more efficient.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 68)
Posted 18 Sep 2023 by Coleslaw
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I haven't kept up with LHC after they merged all 4 of their projects into one and then converting the CMS dev project into the lhc-dev project. However, back in 2015 the process was to "send an e-mail to Ivan.Reid@CERN.ch with the Subject: "CMS@Home Request. This in turn will be used to provide you with an invitation code that is used during account creation." I didn't have to do this as my account was created before the invite codes were needed. I hope that helps you out a bit.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Box's Don't get any work from Project ??? (Message 67)
Posted 18 Sep 2023 by Coleslaw
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Please drop the term being bounced around "Banned" The fact that you can Post messages and communicate your frustrations means you are not Banned. People who are excessively disruptive can be Banned... and then they are "gone"
Hosts being banned is not the same as users being banned. Rosetta would ban hosts from their VB tasks if they failed a certain number. You could manually reset the ban in the computer's details screen on the website once you think you've fixed the problem of VB not working. Some projects will limit your host to one task at a time if they've been failing a lot, until such time as they successfully complete one.

On this project hosts do not get banned. Well mine haven't, even when they kept asking for work and didn't have VB version 7.

Users being banned, that never happens, they only get banned from the forum. No project has ever banned even me from running tasks. They don't want to lose computing power, and the Boinc server probably doesn't even have that function.

And anyway there's nothing to stop you just calling yourself by another name! They even suggest it in the last rule: "If your account is banned don't create a new one" - pretty much inviting you to do it.


Maybe you haven't been around long enough to see it before, but in the past there certainly have been projects outright ban people. It was typically in regards to cheating the points system though in some way. I will say that I don't read every project forum like I did a decade ago, so I cannot recall any doing it recently. And my memory doesn't recall specific projects anymore since there have been well over a hundred come and go over the years.




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