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Number crunching :
Unable to report completed tasks
(Message 119)
Posted 10 Oct 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: I have one machine in a similar state. The only way to get the task to go away was to detach and reattach. And yet I still get the "Not accepting requests from this host" message. My other computers just say no tasks available. The machine which is banned is older, perhaps the CPU is deemed not capable of doing this project? Although it did complete the last task successfully. I see no error message in it's details, like you can get at Rosetta for not having VB installed: https://uspex-at-home.ru/prediction/show_host_detail.php?hostid=126 |
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News :
Project USPEX@HOME was restarted.
(Message 109)
Posted 28 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: be patient? yesIt's not like we get paid. It's not like there's nothing else to do. Projects which rarely have work, I just leave switched on. Boinc checks once a day until something happens. |
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News :
Project USPEX@HOME was restarted.
(Message 107)
Posted 27 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: The restart is not going well . Items as viewed from the outsideProjects can be short staffed, short of money. Be patient. |
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Box's Don't get any work from Project ???
(Message 104)
Posted 24 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: At the moment it's not a Linux or a Windows project, no tasks for days. Seems to be a lot ofProject is Windows only.Applications page lists Linux aps: Deprecated: round(): Passing null to parameter #1 ($num) of type int|float is deprecated in /home/boincadm/projects/prediction/html/user/server_status.php on line 181 on the server status page too. |
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Box's Don't get any work from Project ???
(Message 103)
Posted 24 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Despite your (MrPhucker's) personal opinion,Writing my name like that is rude :-) It is actually my real initial and surname. Great fun at school. |
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Box's Don't get any work from Project ???
(Message 101)
Posted 22 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Why they incorrectly have a warning. There's no work to get now anyway! I think we've been over everything users can fix, perhaps someone could put it into an instruction manual on the front page. |
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Box's Don't get any work from Project ???
(Message 97)
Posted 20 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: A single instance of iThena Measurements doesn't use much data. But if you have a lot of them it can add up very quickly and that can be a problem for people who have low data caps.Nothing like what LHC uses. And you'd have to have a thousand of them, which would mean you were deliberately playing the system and deserve what you get. If they wanted multiple tasks on one computer, they'd send them. |
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Box's Don't get any work from Project ???
(Message 91)
Posted 19 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: I read somewhere that advocates were using the data against the cable companies to prove that 'high speed internet' is not always what they claim it is,You mean it's only fast to the test site but they have no connection to a lot of the backbones? no idea where I saw it though but if it's available that would make sense. My own cable company claims over 80% of it's client have access to 'high speed internet' but over 30% of their clients still use wifi as their is no cable of any kind running to their homes. Some areas have zero internet whatsoever and kids have to go to the local McDonalds or library to do their homework. Some teachers have stopped assigning homework in areas where the students have no access to the internet from home.Is there not 4G? |
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Box's Don't get any work from Project ???
(Message 88)
Posted 19 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Well....when you could run up to 1,000 instances on a single host, it adds up quick... Plus it is a lot of small data and put stress on routers/modems. And with a 1,000/PC you can get an awful lot of traffic going that adds up.Less traffic than say LHC. I could run 40Mbit both ways with that. It doesn't break a router to overload it, it just slows down, it's not like a car. You're asking it to do a lot, not giving it a higher voltage. |
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Box's Don't get any work from Project ???
(Message 86)
Posted 19 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Its not really "checking" your internet connection. It is more "mapping" the route data is traveling between locations. And that route can actually change between cycles. There was another project called Dimes (non-BOINC) years ago that did essentially the same "science" but it was discontinued. Basically the same piece of data could travel infinite different paths to get to the same location. In theory they are supposed to take the shortest path but lines get congested, hardware over tasked or down, some re-routed intentionally for various reasons (including tracking), etc.. In theory they could take this data and make smarter devices/networks to make things more efficient.Or spot government interference! I wonder why they invite you to use the tor network to access the Ithena homepage. |
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Box's Don't get any work from Project ???
(Message 85)
Posted 19 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Its not really "checking" your internet connection. It is more "mapping" the route data is traveling between locations. And that route can actually change between cycles. There was another project called Dimes (non-BOINC) years ago that did essentially the same "science" but it was discontinued. Basically the same piece of data could travel infinite different paths to get to the same location. In theory they are supposed to take the shortest path but lines get congested, hardware over tasked or down, some re-routed intentionally for various reasons (including tracking), etc.. In theory they could take this data and make smarter devices/networks to make things more efficient.So it maybe is useful to run all my computers on it, as they will get different paths, and are maybe doing different traces anyway. Not sure why they have the warning I could damage/overload/cost me extra money my internet connection by running them all on it. The total throughput is no more than 0.1 Mbit out of my 32 down 7 up connection. |
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Box's Don't get any work from Project ???
(Message 84)
Posted 19 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: I don't blame you. I wouldn't bother him either. However, they may be another admin that could do the same if you asked in LHC forums. I honestly don't even know if that was still the preferred method for getting the code.I'm not on good terms with a lot of them :-) |
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Box's Don't get any work from Project ???
(Message 81)
Posted 19 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: It's a brand new, to the public, Project and it makes sense to limit the number of tasks per user so everyone gets some and not one person gets all of them and the rest of us get none. As the Admin said overtime they expect to up that to more tasks per pc. Look at the Project Ithena and how they are always having 'database full' messages because too many users are overwhelming the amount of space they have. They are working on it by increasing some of the task sizes but it will take time and probably money to fix the problem. MilkyWay limits the number of tasks a single user can get as well, it's not an uncommon thing, remember this is about the Science and one user crunching all the data can cause HUGE problems if their pc is not working correctly.I've just joined Ithena, looks like the measurements project runs all the time, but there's no point in running it on more than one computer since it's checking your internet connection and they'd all get the same answer. The computation one I put on all of them, but that only has work every few weeks for 12 hours. The measurements one only has Linux tasks available just now, so I added it with a Virtualbox Linux. ROFL it warns you will be connecting to porn sites. Waits for police at door.... |
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Box's Don't get any work from Project ???
(Message 78)
Posted 19 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: That last message means there are problems connecting to the Project, probably because it's in Russia and there is a War, or whatever they call it, going on.It's what NATO calls it, but I never asked to be a member. All I know is my petrol and electric prices are stupidly high and I won't be voting for the current government again. I get the same thing but keep trying and it eventually goes thru.Mine stopped when I put VB 7 on. Not sure why you're still getting them. |
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Box's Don't get any work from Project ???
(Message 76)
Posted 19 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Sager told me to use the Task Manager, select Performance & the CPU Performance will come up, both Sager Laptops say Virtualization Enabled. So it's enabled in the BIOS under VT-d & the Task Manager says Virtualization Enabled but Leomoon says it isn't ... Weird, not much else I can do ... All 3 Box's don't get work from LHC or LHC Dev either, doesn't really give any specific reason just doesn't give them work ...Could be HyperV is stuck, apparently it does, did you try the solutions in https://superuser.com/questions/1153470/vt-x-is-not-available-but-is-enabled-in-bios ? |
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Box's Don't get any work from Project ???
(Message 74)
Posted 19 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: And I've never mentioned a user being banned, just a host/client. And yet some others are talking about learning to readThe problem is I'm not seeing hosts getting banned. But I'm very familiar with me getting banned! |
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Box's Don't get any work from Project ???
(Message 73)
Posted 19 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: I haven't kept up with LHC after they merged all 4 of their projects into one and then converting the CMS dev project into the lhc-dev project. However, back in 2015 the process was to "send an e-mail to Ivan.Reid@CERN.ch with the Subject: "CMS@Home Request. This in turn will be used to provide you with an invitation code that is used during account creation." I didn't have to do this as my account was created before the invite codes were needed. I hope that helps you out a bit.Ivan is currently in hospital with bleeding on the brain after he slipped in his kitchen, hit his head on the worktop, and fell unconscious for a few days. Luckily a neighbour found him. I won't bother him with such a request at the moment. |
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Box's Don't get any work from Project ???
(Message 72)
Posted 19 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Maybe you haven't been around long enough to see it before, but in the past there certainly have been projects outright ban people. It was typically in regards to cheating the points system though in some way. I will say that I don't read every project forum like I did a decade ago, so I cannot recall any doing it recently. And my memory doesn't recall specific projects anymore since there have been well over a hundred come and go over the years.Ah right, I can see that happening. I don't cheat points, I just annoy people on the forums by telling it like it is. Some people call that "being rude". |
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Box's Don't get any work from Project ???
(Message 71)
Posted 19 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Some people set up batch files / scripts to ask for work regularly. It works for places like World Community Grid where GPU work is rare, and they let you ask very often. I just thought you might have something active on Uspex aswell. I see no other reason a host would get banned.perhaps hammer the server for tasks?Why would one hammer the server for tasks as currently the server communication is deferred for 909 seconds (~15 mins) between successive updates. And what's with those numbers? You got (and I get similar): 9/18/2023 1:46:41 PM | prediction | Requesting new tasks for CPU 9/18/2023 1:46:43 PM | prediction | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 9/18/2023 1:46:43 PM | prediction | Not sending work. Last request too recent. Please wait 767 seconds. 9/18/2023 1:46:43 PM | prediction | Project requested delay of 909 secondsThe server clearly said "Please wait **767** seconds". So why does Boinc then say the project requested **909** seconds? 909 is not equal to 767. |
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Box's Don't get any work from Project ???
(Message 65)
Posted 18 Sep 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Hosts can be banned while users are not. I have a client that received work, now it cannot with the message I posted. That is a ban.You're the only person to have seen this message. Did you do something unusual with the computer, perhaps hammer the server for tasks? |
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