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Message 4 - Posted: 15 Sep 2023, 11:07:37 UTC

Is there anything special this project needs to get work from ??? I have 7 Box's attached but only 1 of them gets any work, and even then only if I shut off any other work & do a manual update. All the box's have at least 8 to 64 GB of Memory. Even if I shut off work on the other Box's they simply won't download any work from this Project just the same box will ... Thanks
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Message 5 - Posted: 15 Sep 2023, 11:16:31 UTC - in response to Message 4.  

Is there anything special this project needs to get work from ??? I have 7 Box's attached but only 1 of them gets any work, and even then only if I shut off any other work & do a manual update. All the box's have at least 8 to 64 GB of Memory. Even if I shut off work on the other Box's they simply won't download any work from this Project just the same box will ... Thanks

Yes I have the same problem on 2 PCs....
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Message 6 - Posted: 15 Sep 2023, 12:06:36 UTC
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Project is Windows only
and your host that gets work have this: virtualbox (7.0.6) installed, CPU has hardware virtualization support and it is enabled
the others not. and that may be the cause.
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Message 7 - Posted: 15 Sep 2023, 15:47:00 UTC

Yeah it's probably the "CPU has hardware virtualization support and it is enabled" if anything because I see others getting work with virtualbox 6.0 installed so I don't think it's that. I looked in the BIOS on several of the other Box's but there doesn't appear there is any way of Enabling Hardware Virtualization Support" ...
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Message 8 - Posted: 15 Sep 2023, 19:25:13 UTC - in response to Message 6.  

Project is Windows only
and your host that gets work have this: virtualbox (7.0.6) installed, CPU has hardware virtualization support and it is enabled
the others not. and that may be the cause.

I think you're right.
I upgraded from virtualbox 5.1 to virtualbox 7.0.10 and I get wu.
15 Sep 2023, 18:28:05 UTC 18 Sep 2023, 18:28:05 UTC En cours --- --- --- Virtual Machine with 4 GB available memory v1.08 (vbox64_60_4G)
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Message 10 - Posted: 16 Sep 2023, 21:07:38 UTC

Due to the peculiarities of using virtualization technology, the following approach is used:
one task per computer at a fixed point in time.
In the future, we plan to try an approach with two or more tasks per computer at a fixed point in time.
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Message 13 - Posted: 17 Sep 2023, 1:32:44 UTC - in response to Message 10.  

Due to the peculiarities of using virtualization technology, the following approach is used:
one task per computer at a fixed point in time.
In the future, we plan to try an approach with two or more tasks per computer at a fixed point in time.


One task per BOINC client.

A PC can run more than 1 task at a time.
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Message 15 - Posted: 17 Sep 2023, 4:47:40 UTC - in response to Message 13.  

Due to the peculiarities of using virtualization technology, the following approach is used:
one task per computer at a fixed point in time.
In the future, we plan to try an approach with two or more tasks per computer at a fixed point in time.


One task per BOINC client.

A PC can run more than 1 task at a time.

yes, with applications with 4Gio and 6Gio ram, it limits the number of wu.
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Message 18 - Posted: 17 Sep 2023, 5:55:39 UTC

Yea, I also have a machine that cannot get tasks. It is the latest BOINC and VBOX versions. And yes, virtualization is turned on. And yes, BOINC does see that box is installed. All the rest of my similar machines get tasks no problem.
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Message 22 - Posted: 17 Sep 2023, 12:58:58 UTC - in response to Message 10.  

Due to the peculiarities of using virtualization technology, the following approach is used:
one task per computer at a fixed point in time.
In the future, we plan to try an approach with two or more tasks per computer at a fixed point in time.
I seem to be stuck on one task per account, not client. I attached 8 machines at once. All but one did something weird and claimed it couldn't contact the server, but continued to talk to it, asked twice, then got told off for last request too recent. One got a task, then since then the other hosts have just been told "got 0 new tasks" as though there's none available.
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Message 23 - Posted: 17 Sep 2023, 14:25:15 UTC
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I see this on 3 of my Box's that I think should be getting work from the project but they don't "Virtualization Virtualbox (7.0.6) installed, CPU does not have hardware virtualization support" I'm not sure if thatis telling me I don't have VT Enabled which I do because I've checked several times on those Box's or that the CPU actually don't support VT ... I've checked online & those CPU are supposed to support it so not really sure why they get that line for VT ...

Could be because they are Laptops, but the lone Box I do get work on is a laptop too ...
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Message 24 - Posted: 17 Sep 2023, 14:38:39 UTC - in response to Message 23.  

I see this on 3 of my Box's that I think should be getting work from the project but they don't "Virtualization Virtualbox (7.0.6) installed, CPU does not have hardware virtualization support" I'm not sure if thatis telling me I don't have VT Enabled which I do because I've checked several times on those Box's or that the CPU actually don't support VT ... I've checked online & those CPU are supposed to support it so not really sure why they get that line for VT ...

Could be because they are Laptops, but the lone Box I do get work on is a laptop too ...
You have to switch it on in the BIOS, have you done so? Do other projects say you don't have it on?
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Message 25 - Posted: 17 Sep 2023, 14:40:35 UTC - in response to Message 15.  

Due to the peculiarities of using virtualization technology, the following approach is used:
one task per computer at a fixed point in time.
In the future, we plan to try an approach with two or more tasks per computer at a fixed point in time.


One task per BOINC client.

A PC can run more than 1 task at a time.

yes, with applications with 4Gio and 6Gio ram, it limits the number of wu.


It uses nowhere close to that and much less than some apps that aren't vbox. There should be no limit on number of tasks.

It makes me wonder what is going on in vbox that they are hiding and don't want more than 1 task running per PC.
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Message 26 - Posted: 17 Sep 2023, 14:41:43 UTC - in response to Message 22.  
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Due to the peculiarities of using virtualization technology, the following approach is used:
one task per computer at a fixed point in time.
In the future, we plan to try an approach with two or more tasks per computer at a fixed point in time.
I seem to be stuck on one task per account, not client. I attached 8 machines at once. All but one did something weird and claimed it couldn't contact the server, but continued to talk to it, asked twice, then got told off for last request too recent. One got a task, then since then the other hosts have just been told "got 0 new tasks" as though there's none available.


Yes I already mentioned that above.

They are banning hosts/clients. I also tried a 2nd client and it was banned.
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Message 27 - Posted: 17 Sep 2023, 14:49:17 UTC - in response to Message 25.  

It makes me wonder what is going on in vbox that they are hiding and don't want more than 1 task running per PC.
We all know Virtualbox is badly coded. They probably interfere with each other.
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Message 28 - Posted: 17 Sep 2023, 14:50:17 UTC - in response to Message 26.  
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I seem to be stuck on one task per account, not client. I attached 8 machines at once. All but one did something weird and claimed it couldn't contact the server, but continued to talk to it, asked twice, then got told off for last request too recent. One got a task, then since then the other hosts have just been told "got 0 new tasks" as though there's none available.
Yes I already mentioned that above.

They are banning hosts/clients. I also tried a 2nd client and it was banned.
I was not told I was banned, just no tasks available. The top contributor Mikey has more than one host running a task at once. So it must be possible.

Looks like some stupid Boinc bug, I get "Scheduler request to url failed: Couldn't resolve host name", which is absolute garbage. If the host name couldn't be resolved, how am I posting in here from the same computer? And how does Boinc immediately talk to the server it can't resolve?
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Message 29 - Posted: 17 Sep 2023, 15:06:07 UTC - in response to Message 24.  

You have to switch it on in the BIOS, have you done so? Do other projects say you don't have it on?


It's turned on, says VT Enabled, nothing more I can do. Config file is set to 0 for V_Box also ...
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Message 31 - Posted: 17 Sep 2023, 15:27:11 UTC - in response to Message 29.  

You have to switch it on in the BIOS, have you done so? Do other projects say you don't have it on?
It's turned on, says VT Enabled, nothing more I can do. Config file is set to 0 for V_Box also ...
Odd, all I've ever done is turn it on in the BIOS, then install Virtualbox. I've heard people saying the windows Hyper-X (?), whatever the MS rival is called gets in the way. A software controlled alternative that can't run at the same time.

So what do your computers come up with when you look at their details on the website of another VB project, say LHC?
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Message 32 - Posted: 17 Sep 2023, 15:42:28 UTC
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Fixed my can't get tasks problem. This project does not like Virtualbox version 5. I upgraded to 7 and it's ok. Cosmology only likes 5, it can get lost.

Of course a message telling me I needed version 7 would have been nice. I only found out by chance because I had one machine on version 7.
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Message 34 - Posted: 17 Sep 2023, 16:03:12 UTC - in response to Message 32.  

Fixed my can't get tasks problem. This project does not like Virtualbox version 5. I upgraded to 7 and it's ok. Cosmology only likes 5, it can get lost.

Of course a message telling me I needed version 7 would have been nice. I only found out by chance because I had one machine on version 7.

The solution was here https://uspex-at-home.ru/prediction/forum_thread.php?id=3&postid=8
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